16 Apr 26 - 16:00

MorG: I just put a batch of Tall Boy Cherry, Cranberry & Chocolate Muffins in the oven

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j2brown: ...and with that it's time to go radiate my lunch.

j2brown: Exactly.

j2brown: Agreed, which it part of why I didn't get very far with that. I'd expect that the vast majority of the audience hadn't read the books, though. I'm definitely not their target.

Grenadier: If it didn't have the Jack Ryan name on it, it would be the same show. So little was taken from the books or movies that it's sort of a generic spy show with the name slapped on it.

j2brown: Almost certainly more profitable.

Grenadier: But they almost took too little in the Krasinski show.

Grenadier: Which I suppose is better than remaking Red october or something.

j2brown: No worries.

Grenadier: Yeah, they took the basic idea, and did their own thing.

Grenadier: Sorry, lost your original point there in my own comments.

Grenadier: Oh yeah

j2brown: More of a reboot, I guess.

j2brown: In that they took the name, a few broad facts, and took off in an entirely new direction.

Grenadier: I mean, he's not exactly the bad-ass Bourne is, but he gets the job done.

j2brown: But, as I said, that makes sense.

Grenadier: How like Bourne? Film style?

j2brown: It seems like they reset, put it in the modern world, and then create new from there. I'm fine with that, but it's more like Bourne, which was my original point.

Grenadier: Yah, probably not.

Grenadier: Though if they keep going with Krasinski, he might get there eventually.

j2brown: I don't think that's actually their intent (to get to POTUS).

Grenadier: They keep resetting to "I'm just an analyst."

j2brown: Instead I'd reread Red October or one of the older ones.

Grenadier: The way they start over every time there is a new adaptation means they never get far enough to do Jack-as-President.

j2brown: I tried a few post Executeve Orders, but also didn't make it too far.

j2brown: Yes, that's how I interpreted it, which brings us to "is the series based on the books".

Grenadier: I gave up on them even before Clancy died.

Grenadier: Looks like they technically have 2 series now, one for Jack, one for Jack Jr. And far more books that Clancy ever did himself.

Grenadier: I meant the books