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128k Stream * # of listeners * # of hours = $$$ ???

 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:49 am   Post subject: 128k Stream * # of listeners * # of hours = $$$ ??? Reply with quote


Could I get some hard numbers as to what it takes to get a 128k stream up and running?

How many users will be accessing the stream?
On average, how long do users listen to a stream?
How much does a GB of traffic cost?

I scratched out some rough calculations based on bandwidth estimates from 1and1.com

1 user * 128k * 60 sec * 60 min = 460 MB/hour
$.99 for 2 hours of listening for a single user.

That means if I want to listen to a 128k stream 8 hours a day for a month, I would need to donate $120/month??? How far off am I?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:19 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


How many users will be accessing the stream?
I estimate we would have 200-500 at all times.

On average, how long do users listen to a stream?
1 Hour on Live365

How much does a GB of traffic cost?
I do not pay for bandwidth used. I pay for the capacity of listeners at a given bitrate.

1 Listener costs $3.00 per month at 128k.

200 Listener Capacity @ 128k = $600/mo.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:40 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


Oh, wow. I was *way* off. That looks more doable.

Great site. Thanks for taking the time to run it!
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:07 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


That brings up another interesting question. What about royalties. People donate their CD's yet do you still have to pay royalties? What does that cost?
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Yes we have to pay royalties on non-Live365 streams regardless of the source of the CD. Why do you want to know?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:48 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


odd... so does that mean if I listen to this website via real radio, you have to pay royalties. But if I listen it thru live365, it helps save you money?
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No we have to pay regardless of whether you're listening or not.
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You can quote me if I'm wrong JERIC, Live365 pay a special royalty for you which they cover within the monthly subscription.

I think after the recent changes they increased the subscriptions by $5 to cover new royalties.

Then again I could be wrong Smile

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Jonathan, yes. You'll note that that is why Jeric says we pay Royalties ourselves on all "Non-Live365" Streams.
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$5/month if you pay monthly, $3.65/month if you pay annually.
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