128k Stream * # of listeners * # of hours = $$$ ???

cen_sys · Cadet 1 Joined: Apr 18, 2003 Posts: 4

Could I get some hard numbers as to what it takes to get a 128k stream up and running?

How many users will be accessing the stream?
On average, how long do users listen to a stream?
How much does a GB of traffic cost?

I scratched out some rough calculations based on bandwidth estimates from 1and1.com

1 user * 128k * 60 sec * 60 min = 460 MB/hour
$.99 for 2 hours of listening for a single user.

That means if I want to listen to a 128k stream 8 hours a day for a month, I would need to donate $120/month??? How far off am I?

Peter E.

JERIC · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:19 am Post subject:

How many users will be accessing the stream?
I estimate we would have 200-500 at all times.

On average, how long do users listen to a stream?
1 Hour on Live365

How much does a GB of traffic cost?
I do not pay for bandwidth used. I pay for the capacity of listeners at a given bitrate.

1 Listener costs $3.00 per month at 128k.

200 Listener Capacity @ 128k = $600/mo.
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cen_sys · Cadet 1 Joined: Apr 18, 2003 Posts: 4

Oh, wow. I was *way* off. That looks more doable.

Great site. Thanks for taking the time to run it!
Peter E.

wookie · Cadet 3 Joined: Oct 01, 2003 Posts: 11

That brings up another interesting question. What about royalties. People donate their CD's yet do you still have to pay royalties? What does that cost?
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JERIC · Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:24 am Post subject:

Yes we have to pay royalties on non-Live365 streams regardless of the source of the CD. Why do you want to know?
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lbspeedyx · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject:

odd... so does that mean if I listen to this website via real radio, you have to pay royalties. But if I listen it thru live365, it helps save you money?

Cocles · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:33 am Post subject:

No we have to pay regardless of whether you're listening or not.

Jonathan · Cadet 3 Joined: Apr 02, 2003 Posts: 11 Location: UK

You can quote me if I'm wrong JERIC, Live365 pay a special royalty for you which they cover within the monthly subscription.

I think after the recent changes they increased the subscriptions by $5 to cover new royalties.

Then again I could be wrong Smile

Jonathan

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Cocles · Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:44 am Post subject:

Jonathan, yes. You'll note that that is why Jeric says we pay Royalties ourselves on all "Non-Live365" Streams.

JERIC · Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 5:14 am Post subject:

$5/month if you pay monthly, $3.65/month if you pay annually.
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