The Android Player

cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Hello.

Google suddenly decided the app has too many permissions and blocked access to the app on Google app store.
.. I know, right?

For those of us, who decided not to live in constant fear, I have provided an opt to download the app and install it manually Smile

Please be advised: Your phone might not allow this; a security setting has to be enabled (Allow apps from unknown sources).
For reasons unknown they keep rearranging the settings on every mayor update, so its hard to tell you where this setting is located on your specific android.

Logically this option would be located in the security group, which some guides will confirm as well.
- Not on my one plus though.

LadyInque · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:51 am Post subject:

"The Android Player" sounds like the title of a sci-fi romance novel. "She would beat the Player at his own game� if their circuits didn't overload first!"

This was off-topic and not helpful. Thank you for your indulgence, and carry on. Best of luck with the apps.
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cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Except; I forgot I can't add files in here. I should have a file server somewhere.

olaziolek · Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 am Post subject:

oh dear

lady inque, i'd read that
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cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

So, I finally decided to update the app and it turns out, I mostly have to answer a couple of questions about the content.
I thought I had to change all sorts of stuff Smile

I do have to rebuild for target API 26, which hopefully should be a formality.
If I remember correctly I'm using like 11 or so. yeah, I'm a bit behind.

Also; something about one of the permissions are not allowed: PROCESS_OUTGOING_CALLS
Maybe I only need Read_Phone_state
This also should be a minimum of work.

But; The are very anal on the whole missing privacy information and I�m clueless on how to meet these requirements.

Here is the response from Google:

Privacy policy link invalid
We were unable to verify your privacy policy because the link you provided does not work.
Please add or update your privacy policy and make sure it is available on an active URL, applies to your app, and specifically covers user privacy. Learn more about privacy policy requirements in the Developer Policy Center.
If the URL provided points to multiple privacy policies, please make any necessary external changes (within the app, your website, and the Play Store listing - as necessary) to point to one singular governing privacy policy. You must link to a privacy policy on your app's store listing page and within your app.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10144311?visit_id=637548047636464607-3486710232&rd=1#!?zippy_activeEl=personal-sensitive

It's a netradio player for Pete's sake - get over yourself.
These guys..

So; I need a policy page with some privacy mumbo jumbo, that states I'm not doing anything privacy related, not storing anything. Basically nothing really.
Seems stupid, but this is the way of the Google land.

I might need some help with the latter though, maybe I can store the page somewhere on 24/7 site?
This should be the easy part, but I dont know what to write.

If there are members in legal, I'd appreciate some help with the privacy text.

Dragonel · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:07 pm Post subject:

IANAL (I am not a lawyer), this is purely opinion Wink

However I probably need to do something similar for a website soon, so am happy to look into it.

On a quick search I came to https://www.freeprivacypolicy.com/blog/privacy-policy-no-personal-data-collected/
which seems to give a reasonable explanation of why you would still need one and offers a couple of examples of other sites that have had a "we don't use any data" policy. I wouldn't bother trying their "free policy generator" though.
If there is truly no user data used, I'd go for something very simple "No user data is captured or stored so your privacy is not at risk".

However if the app interacts with membership at all (eg the user can log in) then you will need a policy basically just saying what is collected (username & password) and how it is used (passed to SST for verification). And if passed to SST to verify, then you'd want a link to SST's privacy policy.

The Google note says there is already a URL for this - if so, is that on SST or set up somewhere else?
If not, or it is now inaccessible I agree an SST page would be the best place to host it. SST should probably have their own Privacy policy somewhere at least for dealing with GPDR in Europe as well.
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cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

I wonder if this will do:
They even host it for me Smile

https://www.privacypolicies.com/live/aefb962d-d4c3-4c43-a969-52a3e684ccd3

cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Another one. For storage.
I think its the same though:

https://www.privacypolicies.com/live/5fc50c64-d9cd-4df4-a248-7a6d388c7de3

cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

ahh.. first one is eula
second is privacy policy.
that was easy Smile

Dragonel · Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:22 pm Post subject:

I see the policy references contact to "cpmunster" not "cpmonster". Is that just a different alias you use on email?

I didn't realize you were part of the Munsters family Wink

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cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Yeah. Some bozo snapped my alias way way back and when I find him....

- Well I did and his name has nothing to do with cp or monster.

Thanks anyway Smile

Email is cpmunster

Dragonel · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:51 pm Post subject:

cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Bad news - Google requires the app to render in 64 bit mode, which is no problem exclusively.

However; The AAC(+) Decoder part is really giving me headaches. Its soo old and soo unsupported and most, if not all, tech/forum posts on the subject are more than ten years old.

- Is there a substantiel portion of members still using this 15 year old codec?

If so; do we have any statistics on this? Five, fifty, 500 or 5000 members on daily basis?

Dragonel · Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:26 am Post subject:

cpmonster · Vice Admiral (Moderator) Joined: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 52

Thanks Dragonel - I've been through three or four different codecs; compiled libraries and source code. I even tried compiling it myself in some shitty old language called C.
Mein gott. That's a fifty year old syntax - these people need to move on Smile

I see no mention of compiled android libraries for 64 bit anywhere on that site - iOS and Windows is mentioned though.

There are a few AAC codecs out there, but I need it compiled for android in 64 bit.
Since this codec was written before the internet, smartphones and the 64 bit CPU Smile

They are hard to come by.